Something's wrong here.
They want this person gone.
It's turned, literally, into hell.
I don't know what to do.
She causes people to do bad things.
I'm afraid that I'm slowly losing control of everything.
Nightmares, terrible nightmares.
She hunts them.
This seems like a possession.
My name is Amy Allan.
Everything was built on blood.
I see dead people. Very disturbing.
I speak to dead people.
There's victims around him.
Ow. And they speak to me.
Her voice sounds like death.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
The living don't stand a chance here.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
You could have got killed.
I know every person, every house has secrets.
This is coming straight from hell.
It's my job to reveal them.
Your mom was murdered right here in this room. Yes, she was.
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
...until the very end.
This was just the beginning.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
Oh, my god.
Or time to get out.
They're very bad.
This house is trying to kill me.
I'm in Sinclairville, New York.
It's about an hour southwest of Buffalo.
Now this place is tiny, 588 people.
I got called in by a woman named Jacqui, who is a mother of two.
Now, she bought the home thinking it would be
a safe place to raise her kids.
Problem is,
activity in the house is terrorizing everyone,
and she says it's destroying her marriage.
Before Amy arrives, I clear the house
of any leading information.
Photographs can influence her findings,
so it's important I cover or remove them all.
When I'm finished,
the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
I just saw something really strange.
This thing I called the drip. It was odd looking.
It's not a person.
The dead were very unnerved by it,
and they all ran away from it.
It came up to me, and I looked,
and I could see only my reflection in its face,
and it makes you focus on the darkest truths
because, basically, you face it and work through it,
or you go crazy.
So, Jacqui, when we talked on the phone,
you sounded pretty upset about things that were happening here.
Yeah.
It has really turned into a real nightmare,
and I don't know what to do.
I've tried everything.
I can't get rid of whatever's here.
So who exactly lives in the house?
That's my husband, Tim,
my son, Bradley, who is 8,
and my daughter, Pheobie, who is 6.
Give me an idea of what you're going through here.
Things from noises,
nightmares,
mood swings,
but the worst of it is it's really changed my husband.
So what are the changes with him?
Goes to work, comes home, that's it.
Quit spending time with me.
Quit spending time with his kids.
It makes me feel like he's just here out of obligation.
How do you know this is paranormal
and not just husband-wife stuff?
You don't go from having one or two fights every 6 months
to a fight every other day.
Now, there was nothing that was life-changing with you guys
after you moved here?
Since we've moved in here that my health started to decline,
and he says, "My head is telling me
that I don't love you any more."
Have you confronted Tim
and said, "What the hell is wrong with you?
Do you really mean what you're saying?"
Yeah, I have.
His only explanation is is it's like a voice in his head
just telling him, "You don't love your wife any more."
How's a wife supposed to take that?
And then I shut all of my emotions off
because if I reacted to that,
I wasn't going to be able to help him.
When you guys are away from the house, how is it?
Good. We went on vacation.
We're all sleeping. We're all happy.
My husband held my hand for the first time in almost a year.
Well, why don't you just get the hell out of here, move?
I don't have any money to go anywhere.
This was supposed to be our dream home,
our home to grow old in.
It's turned, literally, into hell.
Does not feel good up here. No, no, no, no.
This is a bad area. This whole upstairs is no good.
There is a lot in here going in
with the living person in this particular room.
This room is crazy.
The drip, it's coming in,
and what it's doing is making this person
relive horrible things.
The person's not dealing with this well.
Can you explain how it got here?
It's attracted to the living person
that sleeps in this bed.
They're -- Also, they're having problems.
They're like, they don't like their life.
They're unsettled.
Can you tell much about this living person?
I'd assume it was a female.
They're miserable. They're depressed.
They're emotionally unstable, almost like PTSD episodes.
Okay, Jacqui, so what's going on in here?
Some of our items just randomly disappear
and then reappear again.
I set my keys down on the coffee table one day.
I turned to pick them back up, and they weren't there.
Probably about 40 minutes after looking,
they showed back up where I had left them.
Anybody else home?
My kids are outside. My husband was outside.
It freaked me out.
Okay. Anything else?
One night, my husband and I are laying in bed,
and my daughter's stereo turned on all by itself.
- Pheobie didn't do it? - No. She wasn't even here.
I'm seeing a teenage boy.
He's dead.
He's bad, does bad things in here to the living people.
He likes to make things loud, so I wouldn't be surprised
if TVs go up really loud, radios go up really loud.
He likes that because it freaks them out,
you know, gets their attention.
He is mad, goes into as many homes as possible and rages.
He's a little klepto, so things are moving.
The boy is the worst.
This is not good. This is not good.
Well, you've had some experiences downstairs.
You have any up here?
Oh, yeah, especially in my husband and I's bedroom.
Okay. Okay, what's going on?
My son and I have a lot of really bad nightmares,
like one I had a few weeks ago --
dogs running out of the woods.
I turned to scream, and I couldn't.
I tried, and it was like I had no voice.
- How the hell are you sleeping? - I'm not.
Okay. Anything else?
Yeah. I was over in the laundry room.
I turned to walk out with a laundry basket,
felt like I had been shoved and broke my nose.
Can you demonstrate on me
how hard you might have gotten pushed?
Like that.
You really would have flying.
- Yeah. - What do you think happened?
Couldn't have been anything else than a ghost that done it
or something not natural.
Anything else like that happen?
I wake up quite frequently with bruises on my legs.
What kind of bruises are we talking about?
They average in size, that of child's fingers
to about the size of a doughnut.
And you're sure you're not
bruising yourself with these nightmares?
No. The ones on my arm... Let me see your hand.
Oh. I see what you're saying.
- Grab you like that? - Just like that.
- Well, you couldn't do that. - No.
Anybody else getting attacked like that?
My daughter.
She said it was this big, huge snake in her dream.
She kept rubbing her neck, and when I looked,
she had bite marks on her neck.
I actually have a picture of them.
Oh, jeez.
Is there something she could have banged her neck against
while she was sleeping, having a nightmare?
No. Unh-unh.
All that is in her bedroom is her bed and her dresser.
At the time, we had toys downstairs.
Well, Jacqui, let me ask you a question.
What are you hoping this whole investigation does for you?
I hope it gives me my family back.
I want my husband to be who he used to be,
man I fell in love with.
Nobody wants to feel alone. It's crushing, sometimes.
The teenage boy there at the end of the bed,
he likes to physically affect his surroundings,
like lifting and dropping the bed.
Feet or arms, he's able to do that, too, lift it, drop it.
The person brought that thing, the drip.
Ew.
Yeah, 'cause you find that scary, I guess.
So he hates whoever's here in this space.
They want this person gone.
So, Tim, I was talking to your wife, Jacqui,
and she was saying how your personality
has changed drastically since you moved here.
- Yes. - Do you agree with that?
-100%. - You do?
Before we moved here, I was always happy, always,
you know, wanting to go out and help people and do things
and just spend time with my family.
Since we moved here, everything's changed.
Now, she says you're hearing voices
saying you don't love her any more.
Yes. The pain in her eyes hearing me say,
"I got this voice in my head
telling me that I don't love you,"
was the hardest thing I ever went through in my life.
All right. So man to man,
is it [bleep] you're trying to get out of the marriage or what?
No. I love my wife,
and I want to spend the rest of my life with her.
What does this voice sound like?
It's a man's voice.
- How often are you hearing it? - Every day.
When did the voices start?
They started last year.
Did anything change or happen
that you could recall triggering the voices?
My wife had a surgery,
and they thought she had had a heart attack.
After that surgery, I heard the voices.
Anything else going on with you?
Health issues.
Ever since we moved in here, I've been in the emergency room
four to six times
with the feeling of having a heart attack.
What'd they say was the problem?
They can't find anything. They go in.
They hook me up to all the machines,
and they tell me everything looks good.
Describe how you're feeling
before you need to go to the hospital.
It all starts with pressure in my chest,
and then I'll have a tingly sensation
that goes all the way down my left arm.
Now I know this feeling. It's a really scary feeling.
It is.
You really do think you're having a heart attack.
So, I mean, I don't know how paranormal that is.
Right. Because I suffer from the same thing.
But what do you think is in the house?
I mean, what do you think is going on here?
It's something definitely evil.
I don't want to go through my life
without my wife and my kids.
I worry about that every day since everything started,
and I'm afraid that I'm slowly losing control of everything.
I am seeing a woman.
She said that she was burned as a witch in 1692.
The left side of her is burnt, and the right side is normal.
She is solid and very powerful.
She is attached to the land, and she has to hunt.
She makes me feel sad and angry.
And I see the half-burnt chick.
The witch is making the person sick --
nausea, fevers,
hot in their mouth, in their throat,
in their chest, like a fever,
but it's on the inside of your body.
So, Pheobie, how old are you?
-6. -6. Okay.
Mommy and Daddy told me about the stuff
that they're going through.
What about you?
Okay. So you got kidnapped in your dream?
Mm-hmm.
Scares me a lot.
Yeah. That would scare me, too.
- Do you want to stay here? - No.
I want to go to a different house.
But if we could stop all the nightmares
and all the stuff you're seeing,
would you want to stay in the house?
Okay.
If they don't go away, I'll leave the house.
Nightmares, terrible nightmares.
The witch, she looms.
That's when the person freaks out.
The person's waking up, and here is this old lady
right over the person's face.
So people are seeing this witch when they're awake?
Yes.
They might think they're having nightmares, but they're not.
They're seeing this when they're awake.
So, Bradley, how old are you?
8.
Are you okay being in your room alone?
No. Not at all.
This is the worst room.
Sometimes, I even have my sister sleep on the floor.
So what kind of the things are you experiencing?
I hear voices every day.
Did it sound like kids or adults?
It sounds like all of them.
Where are these voices coming from?
Over there.
- In this little room here? - Yes.
Were they talking to you, or you just heard them?
They were talking to me because I'm the only one
that can hear 'em.
Anything else that you're experiencing?
I see a girl right where the stairs are,
standing there, staring at me.
She's in a dress,
long dress, down to her feet,
about same age as me.
How often do you see this little girl?
Three or four times a week.
Do you ever try to talk to her?
No, because I usually don't talk to people
unless they say something first.
Does she scare you?
Yes. It's the creepiest thing I've seen.
Buddy, let me ask you a question.
Do you want to stay here, or do you want to move away?
I want to move.
I really like this house,
but with all this, I can't take it.
The witch, I think that they've seen her.
I see her young.
She said that she has to hunt living people.
She hunts people that would remind her
of the people that persecuted her --
liars, gossips, and religious fanatics.
She hunts them
and then makes their life miserable.
How?
I think that she causes people to do bad things.
They get more torture.
It's fun for her to torture those kinds of people.
You know, Sinclairville's a tiny town,
so the second I called the historian types,
they knew all about Jacqui and Tim's property.
I'm meeting a genealogist who says
a family that used to live there
had nothing but heartbreak before and after they moved in.
You mentioned on the phone this Passinger family...
Mm-hmm. ...had a lot of troubles and heartache.
What do you mean?
They owned the property you're investigating from 1956 to 1973,
and their son, Andrew, he was quite the troublemaker.
So what kind of trouble are we talking about?
About 1940, he's 18.
He's with another friend who is 19,
and they're cruising around in a car,
and they come upon a girl,
and he's catcalling her,
trying to get her to get into the car,
and she refuses and keeps walking,
so he gets mad.
They stop the car.
He jumps out and tries to force her into the car.
He's trying to kidnap this girl.
- He's a wild kid. - Yeah.
He gets arrested, spends 6 months in jail.
It made headlines in the local paper.
Okay. So he does 6 months.
Does he straighten out?
Not really.
Actually, a couple years later, 1942, he's out again
riding around with his friend in a car,
and he hit and kills a 70-year-old man
and gets no jail time for that.
So this kid kills a guy, doesn't do any jail time.
- Right. - And what happens next?
November 14th of 1942, he marries a young lady
who's only just turned 15,
Elaine Diers.
15? What happens next with this kid?
They have three children, but tragedy follows him,
and Elaine falls ill,
and she's ill for a number of years,
and then she dies in 1956 at the age of 28.
Do we know what she died of?
No. Actually, this is her obituary,
and it doesn't state what she died of.
Wow. She was young, huh?
- Yeah. - All right.
So how did he take the death of her?
He's devastated, heartbroken, and by this time,
his parents are living on the property
that you're investigating.
He moves in with all three of the kids.
Right. So how's things work out for him?
Not very well.
Andrew himself, actually a year later on Halloween,
he passes away at the age of 41 from rectal cancer.
That leaves his mother to raise the three children in the house
until they are old enough to get married and move away.
Okay. So his wife dies young. He dies young.
You weren't kidding when you said they had trouble
before and after. Right.
Tragedy all the way around.
There's, like, a dead family.
I'm seeing the mother.
She has three kids,
but they were here a long time ago,
and then somehow they all [bleep] died,
I guess, close to the same time?
I'm getting boom, boom, boom.
It wasn't good. I know that.
The dead mom, she's just nervous.
She doesn't trust people.
Um...
She was married since she was 14.
She died of an illness.
She's young, younger than I thought she'd be.
How old?
I hear 28, but then I hear 29.
Right now, they're hiding in the corner.
Thing is, I don't know who they're hiding from.
So far, I've got a family being torn apart
by bizarre activity on a property
that has seen several tragic deaths.
But I want to know if there's anything else.
Searching for old records, I find the Strong family,
who used to own my client's land.
Turns out they had a direct connection to a brutal murder
that happened less than a mile away
from Tim and Jacqui's property.
You know, I want to find out what happened to this poor guy
who got his skull bashed in near Jacqui's house.
Now I'm on my way to meet a local sheriff
who says this case took a surprising turn.
Sheriff, thanks for meeting with me.
I appreciate that.
During my research, I found out the Strong family
that occupied my client's property back in 1897
somehow has a connection to this homicide I had you look into.
I mean, what were you able to find out?
There was a man by the name of Axel Lawson.
Mr. Lawson lived with the Strong family,
who owned the land that your client lives on today.
He was found murdered on the 27th of May in 1897.
He'd been beaten badly with a blunt instrument.
So what do we know about the victim?
He was 33 years old.
He was a local produce peddler who traveled
between Sinclairville area and Jamestown selling his goods.
What's the crime scene like?
This is a sketch that was in one of the local newspapers,
of the crime scene.
It looked as though a struggle had taken place.
He had been beaten severely.
They documented 17 pieces of his skull
that were collected from the crime scene.
Okay. A pretty brutal homicide, then.
It was.
This is Axel Lawson's death certificate.
All right. So now we got a dead body. Any suspects?
Yes. There were two solid suspects.
One was a guy by the name of Fred Page.
- He was 50 years old. - Okay.
The other guy was his son-in-law,
Fred Romer, was 35.
Why did they like these guys for the homicide?
After the murder, Axel Lawson's watch
was pawned by the two Freds at a pawnshop in Fredonia.
All right. So I got to assume, with this much evidence,
they make an arrest. They did make an arrest.
Is there a conviction?
There's not.
They were held for a short period of time and released.
You're kidding me.
Apparently they felt there was not evidence to convict.
And they convicted for a lot less back then.
Oh, yeah.
I wonder if these guys were well-liked in the community
and nobody wanted to convict them,
or if they had some ties.
That is unknown. It's an open, unsolved homicide.
I feel like my stomach just dropped.
I'm seeing dead bodies,
three of them.
One is young.
He got his head bashed in with, like, a rock.
And then there's another person,
but I don't know anything about them,
and then there's the old man.
I think he was a farmer.
Do you know when this was?
It could be anywhere from 1910 to 1950s.
And it was outside. It was outside.
Just seems like all hell broke loose,
and I'm just seeing the kid's head get bashed in.
The farmer, he's angry,
very angry because of what happened.
He'll go into fits of rage.
He just keeps saying, "It was a very...bad...day."
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So I just got a call from a local anthropologist,
and she says there was a Native American grave site
just a couple of thousand feet from Jacqui and Tim's house.
Now, I don't think they know anything about it
and that's probably because, according to her,
those bodies got dug up and moved.
Michelle, it's good to see you again.
So this Native American burial site near my client's property,
what can you tell me about it?
It as a circular mound site that encompassed about 3 acres.
That's pretty big, right, for a burial site?
- Yes. - Who was buried there?
Well, some anthropologists believe it may have been
the Erie Indians that were here in the 1600s.
Okay. You mentioned on the phone that these bodies got dug up.
What can you tell me about it?
People recognized the fact that it was a mound,
that it wasn't a natural landscape,
and so early in the 1800s,
folks who were settling here were curious... Okay.
...and excavated parts of the site,
and in 1825,
50 human remains were removed from the mound,
and about 30 years later,
another 25 human skeletons were removed.
What did they do with the bones?
Some were sent to museums across New York state,
and some were displayed locally,
and I have a photograph of one of the local displays
of some of those human remains that were found.
The Native Americans think this is disrespectful?
Absolutely.
There's something wrong with the land here.
Everything's wrong.
There's too much death,
and there's too many weird deaths.
I wish I could figure out what's going on here.
There's something here keeping the dead people here trapped.
Why aren't the dead that are dying leave,
and why... Like, I'm just confused.
We think this could be the Erie tribe.
What do we know about them?
Well, the Erie occupied this entire area through the 1600s.
Whatever happened to them?
They were engaged in a very long-running war
with the Iroquois.
The Erie were really soundly defeated.
How violent did it get?
The Iroquois consistently attacked Erie villages.
They burned them.
They slaughtered men, women, and children.
So by 1680, the Eries had been forced
from western New York completely.
The Iroquois pretty much did wholesale slaughter.
So can you talk more about
what's going on with the land here?
It's a possibility that it has to do with the witch.
I'm thinking that she has a lot to do
with the land being tainted. Hmm, okay.
She's doing something
to prevent people from moving on
or is causing bad things to happen in the first place.
How would people that spend a lot of time on this land
be affected by that?
If they are prone to depression
or violent outbursts,
it could be exacerbated.
People might harm others or themselves.
The people that she hunts,
they have a very bad experience with her directly.
I saw several disturbing things on my walk,
but two concerned me the most.
First, the dead teenage boy who torments the living.
He had, like, thin,
longer hair,
pretty large nose,
and one of the things he does
is he'll lift up the bed and drop it.
Next, I described the witch who hunts the living.
Half of her was a skeleton that was burnt and charred,
and then the other half was normal.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes. That's what I saw.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So, Amy, this is Tim and Jacqui.
They live here with their two adorable kids.
This is Bradley, who is 8,
and this is Pheobie, who is 6.
Now the whole family is being terrorized,
but the main reason we're here
is these guys are convinced something in this house
is tearing their marriage apart and trying to break them up,
and if we can't help them,
they don't think their marriage is gonna make it.
So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys,
I'll ask her to describe her walk.
I went upstairs and I went into the laundry room.
I saw a teeny tiny woman and her three children.
I got that she was married since she was about 14.
She died young, I'd say between 28 and 29 years of age.
Extremely protective of her children
who are very rambunctious.
These kids like to hang out in that little, like,
crawl space attic thing upstairs.
You should hear laughing, running around,
things bouncing off the walls.
Bradley's had experiences with that crawl space, right?
Several different things.
He's seen a little girl up there.
He describes her as... what'd he say, 11?
A bunch of stuff you're talking about reminds me
of some past owners that actually lived in this house,
especially the part about the woman.
Now, a family named the Passingers
lived in this house from 1956 to '73.
Now the expert I talked to said that this family had bad luck
before they moved here
and bad luck after they got into the house.
They had a teenage son named Andrew
who was a mess and got into a lot of trouble.
And later on, he married a girl named Elaine Diers in 1942.
And now I say "girl" because she was 15 years old.
So now Andrew and Elaine wind up having three kids.
A few years later, Elaine got very sick.
She died a few years later in 1956,
and, get this, just like you said,
she was 28 years old when she died.
Interesting.
All right. So what else did you see?
The next person that I ran into, he was a teenage boy,
and he is a big problem here.
He definitely somehow connected to the land.
He's pretty powerful and very present,
very upset and angry.
I think there's a few ways that the living would experience him.
He is very noisy, so one of the things I thought
he might be capable of doing
is turning on the televisions, turning on the radios
and getting them to go up as loud as he possibly can.
Also, he's a klepto.
Things might go missing,
and there is a lot of stress and anger with him.
At this point, he wants you guys gone.
He does not want you in this house.
I think you might have seen the look on their face
when you mentioned stuff going missing.
I'd be sitting there. I'd set my keys down,
and I'd be doing my makeup or my hair or something,
turn around to grab 'em to put them back in my purse,
and they'd be gone.
I'd look everywhere for 'em, couldn't find 'em.
15, 20 minutes later, they're right back in the same spot.
Amy, you also mentioned this kid could turn on radios.
Now, Tim, you guys had a stereo that just went on, right?
- Yes. - Tell Amy about it.
All of a sudden, my daughter's radio, which was unplugged,
turned on, and it was as loud as it could go.
- And where were the kids? - They weren't home.
He's starting to become more physical.
I saw him standing at the end of the bed
and actually lifting the bed and making it shake.
I had a sketch done of what I saw.
Kind of creepy.
That's exactly what it looked like.
- That -- that was my nightmare... - months ago.
He was holding me down in the bed from behind.
Now, this stuff is in your dream.
It might not be a dream.
So he could be actually holding her down and doing that
and having physical contact with her.
I wake up with bruises on my legs a lot.
You guys told me Pheobie has woken up with marks, too.
Pheobie, she had a dream, and she was talking
about this snake in her dream that bit her.
This is Pheobie's neck, and it looks like bite mark.
A bite.
Can't stop shaking.
When I was in the bedroom, I got that
someone was experiencing a lot of unhappiness.
The person is feeling extremely unsettled,
honestly hating their life.
So these negative emotions have attracted this entity
that I was referring to as "the drip."
It's never been human, and when I first encountered it,
it came down, and it's all black and shiny,
and what you see is your face.
This thing forces people to look at themselves
and look at their darkest truths about their lives.
It makes you kind of focus on things that you've done
that you're not particularly proud of.
If you don't, you can kind of go crazy.
It makes the person who is going through this
kind of emotionally unstable, constantly ill,
and it can trigger things like PTSD events.
So it can kind of make you have a little bit of a breakdown.
The dead here are terrified of this thing.
One of you or both of you have attracted it,
and they are pissed off,
and they don't want to deal with it,
and so they need you out of here.
Now, listen, I told you these two are having problems
with their marriage.
You know what?
Tim, tell her about these voices you're hearing.
After my wife had her heart attack...
What?
After she came home, every once in a while,
I'd hear a voice in my head say, "You don't love your wife."
It was just repeated, repeated, repeated,
"You don't love your wife. You need to leave," every night.
We were like best friends.
We don't have so much as a date night.
We don't talk that much.
We fight like it's World War III.
She thinks you want out of here, you want to book.
I mean, tell her what you really feel.
I love you. I want to be here for the rest of my life.
I don't want to go anywhere.
I made a commitment to be in this family.
I love you, and that's never gonna change.
And you guys probably haven't kissed and hugged
like that in how long? - Too long.
I haven't even really full-fledged cried
since my heart attack.
How long ago was this event?
- A year ago. - So let me ask you a question.
You mentioned a drip
that is being attracted by somebody here.
Is it one of them, or is it both of them?
Taking into consideration your health and the mind frame,
it could have been initially attracted to you.
What else we got going on?
This land is inherently contaminated.
Bad things tend to happen here.
If somebody is living here who is prone to violent outbursts,
depression, those types of experiences
would become far more frequent here.
Now, this could be a shot in the dark,
but there is a reason that this land could be bad.
Settlers, when they first came here in the 1800s,
they discovered a massive Indian burial mound
literally a couple thousand feet from the house.
Oh.
But in 1825, people started digging it up.
Now what I thought was strange is they grabbed these bones
and they put them on display through the museums in the area.
I actually got a photo on how they did it.
Do you think any of this could be why the land is bad here?
Ah, this one's a little different.
The reason why the land is a huge, huge problem
is because this very active dead woman
placed a curse on the land.
I got that this dead woman was around during the late 1600s.
During that time, people, uh,
decided that this woman was a witch,
and so they took her and they burned her.
She's extremely solid and powerful.
She says now that she has to hunt,
and I feel she's doing it
because she's angry and she wants revenge.
She'll try to make your life as miserable as she can.
When she was upstairs, there was a lot of hate towards you guys.
I saw her kind of looming over the bed.
She also makes people ill.
You know, we've already talked
about Jacqui's health problems, but Tim's had his share, too.
I've been in the emergency room four times...
Mm-hmm.
...with the feeling of having a heart attack.
Oh, my God.
And since then, they've ran all their tests.
They can't find anything wrong with me.
So as far as this woman goes,
is it possible that these guys will be able to see her?
I think so.
She's capable of projecting herself any which way.
I'm worried about the little girl
that your son saw.
So she may be showing herself to her son as a little girl.
Right.
And I did have a sketch done of how she presented to me.
Oh, that is pretty [bleep] up looking.
Oh, wow.
- That is creepy. - That is.
Scary to think that you have something
like this in your house.
All right, so what the hell
does she want from these people? She wants you out of here
because you have the drip with you right now,
and she does not want to deal with that.
So is she trying to split them up
in a way of getting them out of here?
Yes.
She's absolutely capable of being a manipulator
and trying to get into your subconscious
and, you know, giving you these instructions.
You know, "You don't love her anymore" and working on that,
even if she manipulated the way you heard her.
I was just going to ask you that
because he heard it in a man's voice.
She'll do that to fool people.
I thought it was my fault.
I brought this stuff here.
Why do you feel that way?
When I was 14...
...I was raped.
And I had no one.
After that, everything I did was a lie.
Well, you know what's going on here is not your fault.
I still blame myself.
How do I fix this?
Now, Jacqui, when we first met, you told me the only thing
you really wanted is your family back.
Now the big question is, will you be able to do that
here in this house, and what's it gonna take?
For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
Let's start with the drip.
We all have moments in our lives,
like what you're going through right now,
where you are given an opportunity
to deal with [bleep] that you've acquired.
You have a chance right now to seek more therapy
dealing with the rape that happened,
processing those things,
and I know it's horrible,
but really processing those things,
and anything else that's happened
that's haunting you now.
If you don't deal with them,
they're just gonna get bigger and uglier and nastier.
If you go through all this the right way,
you can come out being a proactive person
and a truly strong person, a survivor.
As far as the dead, it would be extremely difficult
to move her on, if at all even possible.
The teenager, as well, would be extremely difficult.
Frankly, I would suggest that you not stay here.
The land here is very, very bad.
You're talking about hundreds of years of contamination
that can't be just wiped away.
And because of where you are in your life,
I just feel that it would do you no favor to stay here
and go through this transition.
It's going to be hard,
but if we set our minds to it, we can do it.
I agree. It's going to be stressful,
but it comes down to family first.
Just really appreciative of you guys for helping us.
If it wasn't for you guys coming out here,
we -- we don't know where we would have ended up.
I wish I had better news for Tim and Jacqui,
but leaving this home is their best option.
If they do that, and if Jacqui goes into therapy,
they'll begin the process of healing
and lead a peaceful, happy life.